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9/11 Movie

Seeded on Fri Jan 6, 2006 2:09 PM EST
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Shameless attempt to capitalize on 9/11 or tasteful, human portrayal of a tragic event...

I can't pretend anymore -- this is just ridiculous. I mean Cheaper by the Dozen 2 was one thing but have they NO shame? I just hope Michael Bay is involved.

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Bond

The director, Paul Greengras, is not talentless hack. His movie Bloody Sunday is a very good movie which deserves to be seen and I am confident he can make this movie and tell it's story without making it about moeny.

Cut the "too soon" crap.

    Reply#1 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 2:23 PM EST
    Dickard

    Hey, he may be Orson Welles for all I care. The point is that this has nothing to do with telling a compelling story and EVERYTHING to do with reviving sagging box office figures.

    And who said "too soon"?

      Reply#2 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 2:30 PM EST
      Etchalon

      I'll have to agree with Bond. Greengras has never struck me as a box office man. I'm sure he just liked the script.

        Reply#3 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 2:52 PM EST
        Jeff W

        The Oliver Stone movie looks like a much better depiction of 9/11. Although I can see this film as being a good one too, Olivers movie will focus on the heroric efforts of two real men who helped save the lives of people and how they were trapped in the WTC when it collapsed.

          Reply#4 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 2:58 PM EST
          Downie

          The Bourne Supremacy was outstanding...no doubt he's a talented director but I'm not gonna see this one. I already know how it ends and it's WAY too tragic and sad.

            Reply#5 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 3:00 PM EST
            TopJedi

            Just what we need... a new tragedy stream... can't take anymore JFK assassination, Vietnam, and Titanic movies

              Reply#6 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 3:04 PM EST
              Bond

              I would like to 1. apoligze for my typo's in my post, Newsvine doesn't have a function to edit comments (yet?). and 2. remind everyone no actual footage of the movie has been released yet, this is a teaser and it gives a sense of what the movie's tone will be.

              And Downie, it's not about the beginning and the end but about the things in the middle :)

                Reply#7 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 3:14 PM EST
                josh

                I vote for too soon. Movies are best when they're semi-mythologizing something that's fading out of our collective memory. . like Vietnam movies in the 90s. 9/11 isn't fading out of anyone's memory soon and I remember the actual events perfectly well enough without them being dramatically re-enacted in front of a camera.

                  Reply#8 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 3:17 PM EST
                  ollieman

                  Filmmakers like to consider themselves artists, and like the exposition of 9/11 art that happened in NY, it was only a matter of time before films were made on the subject. That fact alone is not enough to condemn the film as a desperate money-grabbing move. Make that judgment after you've seen the film.

                  It is the fact that they are telling the story that offends you? Or that they are charging money to see it?

                    Reply#9 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 4:07 PM EST
                    marc-

                    I don't think this a shameless attempt for money. Think about all the wars that have had movies based on them, if you are going to say this is shameless then every movie about a major event is shameless.

                      Reply#10 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 4:44 PM EST
                      Noah Dylan Goldblatt

                      I have to agree with the above--Oliver Stone's films are much better commentary on Terrorism because their commentary is indirect and their themes are universal. Direct handling of traumatic and recent events in a film like this will be botched at best.

                        Reply#11 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 4:57 PM EST
                        Robert Cortez

                        Actually, Michael Bay was involved in a shameless Hollywood attempt for money that involved reenacting one of the most horrific moments in US history—Pearl Harbor. I'm sure it's films like that one that give most people a bad taste for anything that might even seem exploitative. I can appreciate that, but I can also appreciate a honest, bold telling of a story of bravery and sacrifice. And yet, of course, no one knows at this point which of those this film will turn out to be.

                        Personally, I'm a little wary of how much the filmmakers will try to get away with, being that there's a lot that hasn't been disclosed regarding what happened on that flight. On the other hand, if you watch the Discovery Channel's The Flight That Fought Back, you might be surprised at how much is known.

                          Reply#12 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 5:08 PM EST
                          Dickard

                          My issue is that this movie was inevitable. As soon as 9/11 happened I suspect there were people out there pondering how they were going to make a movie out of it. And now, not surprisingly, there are two 9/11 movies in the works. Doesn't seem very organic to me -- more like a "guaranteed money maker."

                          But maybe that's too cynical.

                            Reply#13 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 5:10 PM EST
                            Ryan Schroeder

                            I don't know, the NYTimes Article makes it sound pretty resonable. Looks like the director's got good intentions, and he's got he families of UA93 behind him.

                              Reply#14 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 5:13 PM EST
                              Dickard

                              I was kidding about Michael Bay.

                                Reply#15 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 5:13 PM EST
                                scohen

                                Yeah, but what's the point though? Usually historical movies (fictionalized or not) are supposed to teach the viewer something, or make the viewer think about how it relates to current times. What point could a movie about something that happened 4 years ago possibly serve?

                                  Reply#16 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 5:17 PM EST
                                  scohen

                                  oh, and don't be knockin' the Bay. 'The Rock' was the freakin' BOMB, yo

                                    Reply#17 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 5:18 PM EST
                                    Derek van Vliet

                                    evil.

                                      Reply#18 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 7:34 PM EST
                                      Derek van Vliet

                                      propaganda.

                                        Reply#19 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 7:35 PM EST
                                        Mike B

                                        It's been done to nearly everything else. Why not 9/11?

                                        No. I don't think it's a good idea to create a movie on it. At least not while it's still fresh in everyones mind. We're still fighting a war that essentially stemmed from this tragedy.

                                        Good idea or not, it will hit the news for months. You can't buy publicity like that, and it will more than likely become a hit.

                                          Reply#20 - Fri Jan 6, 2006 8:33 PM EST
                                          Jason Jang

                                          I don't think the movie will be too bad.

                                          I mean, the subject matter alone means they're treading on thin ice. It's like the movie based on the Paul Bernardo story.

                                          It'll just be different. You won't be going to see this movie for entertainment value. You'll be seeing it because we were all there, pinned to our televisions, watching the world change before our very eyes.

                                          I won't justify the millions of dollars that will be made. I hope it gets back to the right people.

                                          But in the end, I think it will be decent film. I mean, with no actually footage we can't all really extrapolate that the movie's gonna be @!$%#. i really dont know what my original point was here now. im gonna stop talking now.

                                            Reply#21 - Sat Jan 7, 2006 12:29 AM EST
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